What advantages do we get from putting efforts over the rewards?

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Could someone kindly elaborate on the advantages of focusing on the effort behind a task instead of the reward?

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Holy molly! He just described me! I don't get a kick from seeing myself accomplish a goal. I just do what I gotta do as a job that needs completion. I get it done and move on.
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I know amazing ❤
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I don't know if this is going to be of help for anyone but I'll say what is it that keeps me motivated when I am in physical pain when doing exercising, or when I am the lab working extra hours instead of pleasantly  resting at home.

When I find myself doing this kind of activities that indeed require a strong mindset to maintain yourself in a position of discomfort, I actually praise myself when I realize that I am in such position. I literally tell myself when I am working out and I can barely breathe due to the intensity of the workout: 'girl, you are damn cool you are strong enough to show up and endure this instead of lying on bed' And then I feel such a rush of self-accomplishment for letting myself go out and find discomfort that it just keeps me going throughout the workout or extra work hours.

 It is just a feeling of proud for knowing that you are making yourself grow and enjoying the process instead of the goal that is so rewarding. Because, even when we reach our goals, do we stop growing or bettering ourselves? No. And when you fall in love with making yourself your ideal you, you stop focusing on the objective, and you instead focus on the process. That is why I you should praise yourself after every workout, not once you have achieved your ideal body. It is all about the process, guys. I hope this serves as some inspiration!
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Thanks for you ❤❤❤❤
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This is helpful because a lot of my stress and anger is derived from me not getting projects such as home improvement projects, to the finish line. I look at unfinished projects or tasks that are put off either due to leisure, the inability to take time off of work, or something else coming up, as failures or in essence, rewards that I am not achieving.

If I can rewire my mind to only get the dopamine while working on the project or task, it appears I can stop being so hard on myself for not being that “good little boy” who finished his work.
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Projects are for lazy people. True men make things done.
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We do what we can with what we've got .. strive for better yes but don't get so caught up in the outcome that we lose the joy in the doing .. it the journey that counts not the destination
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Great job helping me finally understand this concept.  I too have tons of projects and most go unfinished.  This drives me nuts!!!  No more motivation,  desire, energy,  whatever.   Probably because all i want is to get it completed so i can jump on the next, and the next, and next....i see!!!   I need to start enjoying the whole process and not seeing only the good when task done!!  When i was younger and just started doing home tasks and projects i was like an unstoppable human dynamo!  Big family joke was dad doing his first concrete patio at 5 o'clock in the morning still in his pajamas!!@   i was so excited to do something for the first time that i couldn't sleep.  Anyway thanks for sharing!!!
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Me things you have other issues. Back to therapy for you. And use a To Do list. Simple concept. Man up.
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you agree that commenting is for lazy people, and that True men are out there in the world getting things done, i think we both waste time here in the comment section whereas true men would be getting things done, in the arena not spectators.
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I feel the same way.
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 Did you end up breaking the cycle and start getting things done?  I struggle.
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Huberman should get a Nobel prize.
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Nobel
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@ Thanks for catching the oversight. These tiny letters on our phones are hard to read for us older lads.I generally post for the algorithm to suggest good content (and a good trolling on occasion) rather than care about writing mechanics. Even so, this errata was too egregious to leave unedited.
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The absolute rush I get from leaning into the cold water during my shower, is one of my favorite things. How I feel after the shower is just a bonus on top of that. It really is a mind-blowing thing because I hate the cold.
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Here are the key takeaways from the video:

1. Focusing solely on end goals or rewards can undermine motivation and make hard work more challenging.

2. An experiment showed that rewarding children for an activity they already enjoyed (drawing) decreased their intrinsic motivation to do it later without rewards.

3. Growth mindset, developed by Carol Dweck, emphasizes the importance of focusing on effort and improvement rather than just outcomes.

4. The neural mechanism of growth mindset involves learning to access rewards from the effort itself, not just the end result.

5. Dopamine release during effort can increase energy, focus, and efficiency, making it easier to engage in challenging tasks.

6. To cultivate this mindset:
   - Tell yourself that the effort is the good part, even when it's painful.
   - Focus on the process rather than just the end goal.
   - Remind yourself that you're choosing to do the difficult task because you want to improve.

7. Consistently practicing this approach can make it reflexive for all types of effort.

8. Avoid spiking dopamine before or after the effort; instead, learn to get dopamine release from the effort itself.

9. This approach is considered one of the most powerful aspects of dopamine in human biology and is accessible to everyone.

10. The speaker uses David Goggins, a former Navy SEAL, as an example of someone who has mastered turning effort into its own reward.
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Thank you for writing the key takeaways! Helpful!
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You are touching on the spiritual practice of mindfullness in physical effort.The joy of being fully immersed in the painfulness of your physical existence through ones own choices in whatever activity you are doing because it is deeply fullfilling.And the dopamine flush will come.
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Brilliant. Can be summed up in 3 words: "Be Here Now."
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Your effort in anything is always 100% owned by you. Rewards and accomplishments seldom are, and I find it sad that society uses them to manipulate us into thinking we are better than one another in some way. So... may you all find the things that bring you joy, and throw yourself into the effort of doing them for no reason other than "just because".
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You insight is just as POWERFUL as this video. Thank you.
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Great thought!
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That’s wisdom and I’ve screenshot it for posterity (and tomorrow when I’m struggling again and have forgotten). Thank you wise and generous stranger. ❤️️⚖️
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I've tried multiple times to work out and look bigger and have nicer muscles but I always stopped after a few weeks. I have now stuck at it the longest I've ever done (around 6 months now) because I changed mindset from working to an end goal of looking good to just feeling better, healthier in the day to day, managing anxiety etc. This is golden!
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What's wild is that I was able to do this for exercise easily. I love working out, I love the pain, I love pushing my body to see what it can do. But I got all messed up when it comes to my creative stuff once I started trying to hit a goal. I never thought I'd have to reteach myself how to love my hobbies, but this helped reframe it so I think I can get out of the hole
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Makes  sense. In my younger days I was at the top of my field in masonry construction. Laying heavy concrete block all day long in the hot South Florida summers is extremely strenuous work, and takes a lot out of you, but I loved it.  It never bothered me that I laid twice as many block as the guy next to me who got paid the same or more than me.   The rewards came later when I started my own company, but I didn't do it  just  for the money, it just made the most sense.  By God's grace I ended up doing well, and am semi-retired, and can still do it when I need too, but I do it now because I still enjoy it, not because I need the money.

   It certainly makes all the struggles and problems of your job a lot easier when you do it because you enjoy it and not just for a paycheck.  I never could stand working around people like that very long, they didn't last long on my job, sometimes only a few hours.
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LIFE CHANGING COACHING!! Loving the effort to get better at getting better! Big thanks.
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At that moment I am doing it by choice and I am doing it because I love it! Turn an effort into a reward. Learn to spike dopamine in effort itself
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This explains a lot such as why I dread starting a project & delay until the guilt/anxiety created by my procrastination overrides the dread & negative feelings. Its as if a switch goes off & I look forward to getting the thing underway.
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6:25 through to the end is!!! I'll watch/replay this a few times daily until it sinks in & comes naturally.... Amazing & thx for sharing!!!
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I honestly don't know what he means when he say's, "Don't spike dopamine", (6:40). How do I control it?
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become mindful of how you derive pleasure / rewards from a task. It's a lot harder than it sounds (as most things). But if you try to pay attention to it, you can slowly direct where the pleasure from a task comes from. When you run, don't hate yourself while doing it and look forward for the dopamine spike afterwards. learn to enjoy the process. It's like a new skill you need to learn, but once you do, it's a gamechanger (it has been for me)
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​@@chainwild5272How are you
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Find pleasure in the journey, not the destination, and you'll never commute a day in your life.

I like that
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As a person who came from a family who was economically challenged and got the minimum as a kid, I find as a teacher kids and adults love getting rewarded for doing great  work. Humans want to be acknowledged for a good job no matter if it’s a 5k or the Spelling Bee.
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Three things humans need for good self esteem,  & confidence. ...1), Acceptance. 2), Validation. 3) Encouragement.
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Rewards are great. Too many rewards for routines are not
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The dog whisperer would agree
We r basically animals
If u r living in an extremely cold country and enjoy the moderately heated home, try spending 1 hr in extremely hot conditions, you'll imdtly switch to survival mode and the 1hr will seem like...u guessed right...eternity
Right?
We're here to thrive, not merely survive
The subconscious controls the body and mind(via the brain)
Try faking and the subconscious will find ways to safe guard both body & mind and put you back in the comfort of mediocrity
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I think it's cos we've learnt to depend upon external rewards, like the kids who drew, got gold stars then stipped drawing when the external rewards stopped. External rewards are used to manipulate us & we become dependent. I'm sad about how hard I find it to validate myself.
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So, you can choose what makes you happy and makes you feel fulfilled?  I like that!
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In Greece there is a poet Kavafis who wrote a famous poem Ithaki (Ithaka in English) that describes exactly the beauty of the journey.
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